I have been thinking about it for weeks and decided I must study this topic, and after weeks of reading and writing this article, and praying on it, I now shall address the issue of marriage and homosexuality as “we” can see the bible views it “from the bible.” So that I would know and you can follow along, where God says that “we” as Christians should stand on this issue of homosexuality and same sex union’s. And hopefully you who do read this ALL the way through can “see” exactly, HOW I arrived at my final view point at the end.
Mainly because of recent court decisions, as a Christian and ordained minister, although not presently in any official capacity on staff at a church; I felt I still should look into this myself, so I could answer anyone with similar questions, as to what did God really say. Which is the only viewpoint any one calling themselves a “Christian” is to speak from. And find out if in deed , did God really say?
And as I could now see this very topic moving toward being considered for “false intentions” hateful to speak of it at all, even when “speaking” of it, and the bible at same time… Not sure why? Because this is constitutional right in USA under freedom of religion. …Right?
But It is the reason why I decided right now that I must see for myself, exactly “what God Himself” actually says regarding this subject, so that it is not my opinion, but rather, God’s opinion on these issues, as it should be for any issues concerning life and godliness, (2Pet 1:3), and also remembering that God is love ( 1John 4:8 ), and that the Word of God is given “us” to always be the “Christians” “only” foundation for ALL our beliefs,… and also understanding that the word says a “Christians” beliefs are to be translated into our actions, visibly “seen” in the world, ( James 2:26 ) and therefore “seen” being applied by us in this world correctly! … Why?
Because God said He never changes. (Mal 3:6, Heb 13:8,..yes it means that, see John 10:30, and John 1:1 then John 1:14)…And therefore the Word is to be our “only” guide. (Psalm 119:105, 2Tim 2:15). So I decided I must write here what God shows me as seen by me in the bible, for others to also easily read, and make an informed God decision with. By having our minds transformed to His thinking. (Romans 12:2 ) ( 2Pet 1:21) After all we as Christians are to have the mind of Christ! (1Cor 2:16 )
But as “Christians” our beliefs are NOT to be against “people”, and God’s word IS NOT ever “against people”, but always “only” against sin, and against the devil and his demons that help cause all mankind to sin… (you may want to read that again slooowly.) Why? Because God is FOR ALL people! In (John 3:16) it says God gave us Jesus Christ, because God so loved the “world”…All people. But the devil is the god “ruler” of this world, and that is true… but ONLY as long as “God waits” on judgement, or as long as the “Christians allow” him to be! (Luke 10:19)… Read that again too !
And currently our Father God “waits” to intervene “directly” into this world, for those born on this side of cross, who live in this (short) time of grace, because “He would that none “should perish” (2Pet 3:9) Amplified-”The Lord does not delay and is not tardy or slow about what He promises, according to some people’s conception of slowness, but He is long-suffering (extraordinarily patient) toward you, not desiring that any should perish, but that all should turn to repentance”. Says turn to repentance. Means a Change of direction, with sorrow over sin,…and in this case meaning turn toward God. Uummm.
But sadly some will perish when He Jesus does return. Our job as “Christians” ”IS” to tell the ones that are lost or deceived “by our proclaiming the Truth”… meaning go and ”Preach the word”… AND to “show them” God’s effect working in “our” own lives now! To display “His image”… Individually and corporately as “the church”… the body of Christ. And you say… Well now what about this issue of homosexuality and marriage ?? I am getting to that, but we need some background understanding first, as to “how, and why” I see God’s opinion in this matter, as above all others.
First as a “Christian”, as Jesus said to the devil… “it is written.” .(Mat 4:7)..So I must also, “as a Christian” be able to say the same, and use God’s word correctly, God’s authority given me through Jesus, to use here on earth, and be like Jesus… as an imitator of Him. We are covered by Him as a Christian, as one who has Him inside me, (Gal 4:6 ) and His promises “reign over” me…All of His word. He IS our Armour of God (Eph 6:10-18) And we look like Jesus who is our light, and ”spiritually speaking” we can be seen, by all in the spirit realm in an armour of light. (Rom 13:12 )
But we must put off “deeds of darkness”, that is interesting to notice ( Hey you need to read these scriptures I am giving you, try to hover the arrow cursor over it as may finally work to see it to read). So sin is deeds of darkness. Which as a Christian I am not to be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good! (Rom 12:21). So what are evil deeds? (3John 1:11) Says do not follow evil, and he that does good is of God. Now I know Jesus did not do any evil deeds. He committed no sin, “sinless” But He paid for all our sin. (2Cor 5:21) To give us “gift” of the Righteousness of God! The Gift came by grace (Favor) through faith. ( Eph 2:8 )
And hey it was God Himself by Holy Spirit through Paul, who said that “we”… “all” believers, are being conformed into the “image” of His son! ( Rom 8:2 ) Nasb….” He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son,” And we know that all scripture is God breathed. ( 2Tim 3:16 )… Just as the Holy Spirit was speaking through Paul when he said… “imitate me” as I also imitate and follow Christ. (1Cor 11:1).
And as God called “us” to act as His Children. Ephesians 5:1 Amplified Bible- 1.”Therefore be imitators of God [copy Him and follow His example], as well-beloved children [imitate their father].”… By our acting like Jesus..conforming to Him and His will.
So then if ” I” believe in Jesus Christ, and have become a “born again” Christian,( John 3:3 ) Then I have become a “new creature in Christ”, and old things have past away. (2Cor 5:17) Nasb-”Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come.”
So the things I “use to do” that God Himself calls “sin” or “deeds of darkness”, I now am “free” from, “made able to choose”…and CAN choose to NOT, involve myself in those sinful practices “deeds” any more; Because when the Holy Spirit granted me adoption (Rom 8:15 ) through my believing in my heart, (Romans 10:9-10) and with Christ now in me. As His Spirit IS residing in me now ! (Gal 4:6). Jesus has now freed me, given me liberty (Gal 5:1) to “choose” not to follow the sinful nature. ( Rom 6:16-22 )
And by Jesus I have “confident” access to the Father! ( Eph 3:10-12 )… I am a child of God …and a ex-sinner. A “sinner” is still in “bondage” as a slave to sin. Now even though I am not perfect, I am declared perfect, “righteous”,( 2Cor 5:21) and being “kept” and perfected daily (Philippians 1:6) by Jesus ( leading me into agreement with His word ) until He returns, and I may still daily stumble and commit a sin, (1John 1:7-8 ) but as a “Christian” I am no longer “in bondage” to devil to always act out sinful deeds… I can NOW learn to continue exercising choice FOR God.
But I CAN also still be deceived… because of ME not knowing the truth of God’s word, and therefore stumble, or walk in error. And we are warned of that by Jesus! ( Mat 24: 4 ) Amp-”Jesus answered them, Be careful that no one misleads you [deceiving you and leading you into error].”
So let us now allow God to “show” you and I, ”tells us” by His word, how to walk right, (John 16:13-14), and He leads us, as “Christians”, to always be able to escape the temptations of sin. (1Cor 10:13)… That old “path way” of the devil is NOW severed, which the devil was using to control you and I through the “flesh” , which is really a word that is used to represent this bible definition – Flesh: “appetites and desires of this worlds system”…”this world” that is controlled “ruled” by the devil.
As a Christian the devil’s pathway to control me was severed by the word of God, ”the sword of the Spirit” of God, having given me faith….by the hearing of it. (Rom10:17).;
The Word came in and He set me free,“separated” severed, divided my soul (our soul is the mind, will and emotions) from my spirit! ( Heb 4:12 ) …. It was right there, in that moment “separating soul from spirit” I was granted my freewill. “choice” by Jesus Christ through His victory over Satan on the cross for me; To be “made able” to have the opportunity to choose and “accept” Jesus Christ as my own personal saviour, and receive the gift of righteousness,(Rom5:17) and by it salvation= ‘Deliverance’ from the power of sin and death! (Rom 8:1-2) As a “Christian” …I can now honestly say … I am free (Gal 5:1)… Hallelujah!
And on that day when I got saved (means delivered,) I received my salvation, and became a “believer”, (making Jesus Lord of my life) I could now see, and understand( Psalms 119:130 )… Understand the Truth! ( 2Cor 4:4 ) Amp-” For the god of this world has blinded the unbelievers’ minds [that they should not discern the truth], preventing them from seeing the illuminating light of the Gospel of the glory of Christ (the Messiah), Who is the Image and Likeness of God.” …
So in the scriptures, also known as the ”Truth”; ( John 17:17 ) I as a “believer” in Jesus, am no longer blind, and can “now” see the image of the one known, as the “way, truth and life” (John 14:6) who is also the likeness of God.( John 10:30) …. Which Satan always wants to hide,.. “blind the unbeliever”. …Or steal, kill, and destroy (John 10:10)… Only if allowed by “us” who believe! (Luke 10:19 ).. And may I point out the word “believe” in Greek means cling to, rely on, and adhere too.
And ALL sin = everything God Himself classifies as sinful acts in thought or action,… which is everything God says “misses the mark”, means I really need to understand what God considers sin, because all sin has the penalty with it of separation from God ! (Isa 59:2) And helps me understand the precious gift of righteousness! So ALL sin separates us from God;
That is why I, and all human beings, needed Jesus to bring us “salvation”… Remember salvation also means “deliverance”; To restore us to fellowship with God, who reconciled us to Himself. (2Cor 5:18). And thereby making us all equal heirs in Christ. (Rom 8:17) …Through our adoption. (Eph 1:5)
Because of Jesus Christ, all believers are “equally given the ability” to access the power of God (Heb 4:15-16) through Christ in us, by the Holy Spirit, not only to be “called” son’s of God… But also seen as “imitators of God” as His dearly loved children. (Eph 5:1) To actually make Jesus seen in us ! (2Cor 4:10-11)
So that Jesus Christ may be shown “manifested” in this world. And anything that is repeated in bible closely like that word manifested in 2Cor 4 above, is very important to God …for “us” to see and hear! That “we” as His children will be led by the Spirit of God, through His word made alive in us! (Rom 8:14, John 6:63;) And God is pure and holy and sinless. “Righteous”… and all “unrighteousness” is sin! (1John 5:17)
And yes God is love; But love is an action- “demonstration”… “God demonstrated His love for us while “we were” yet sinners Christ died for us,” (Romans 5:8)
And “we” as “Christians” are told to demonstrate our love as Christ did, to imitate Christ, and be known by our love…By our demonstrations of obedience to God, exactly as He Jesus was known. (John 13:15)… Jesus said He only spoke what the Father told Him (John 12:49)… And Jesus said “If you love me obey my commands.” (John 14:15 & vs23). Just as Jesus always obeyed the Father. …And I need to always “display” love, to be known as His. (John 13:35)
When I got saved, I became so grateful, and my love for Him began to deepen, and was acted out for Him, by a desire to obey Him!..To “demonstrate” my love….Why?
Because my faith “redefined my relationships around me”, (read that again), and He became my “most” important relationship!! And although my appetites and desires (flesh) wanted me to act, as I use too act… I was no longer enticed or manipulated to sin. I had self control ! (Gal 5:22-23 )
As an example I will mention myself, after salvation from Jesus Christ I found I was no longer manipulated into being willing to enter sinful relationships with women that I was not married too; I could now say “NO” to self, and the devil, and actually turned away from “all” that God declared as sin, to walk toward Him. And closely follow His ways…. as much as was possible with in me, as a baby in Christ, but daily “seeking” to do what was necessary, to become as God said that I should be in His word. No not perfect but gradually better and better it.
That is what God calls “Christian.”… Children imitating Him. Like Christ did. Jesus said if you seen me you seen the Father! (John 14:9)
And every day it got little easier to obey… and “seek” to be His child in all I did. And as I was “taught” the Word of God, I matured, and I learned that in me “was Him”, and I could do all things, as all things ARE possible with God! (Mat 19:26,) Why ? Because Christ strengthened me. ( Philippians 4:13 ) … I could do all things through Him! And walk away from the sinful life as Christ did!.. I really was free to choose! Because Jesus sets me free to choose !… Yes I hear you say … What about the original question! Homosexual relationships and same sex marriage !!
But what IS a sinful relationship?? In God’s eye’s, in His word, and what is not?? Really what is immoral and what is not?? I realized “morality” in the bible never changed from old to new testament, even though some things in Old Test law did change when Christ showed up… So I looked at the word to guide me, ( Psalm 119:105 ) which declared God gave me everything for life and for GODLINESS ! ( 2Pet 1:3 )… Granted by “His” divine power…through the “knowledge” of Him! So I turned to the knowledge of Him…The Word of God !
Now for those questions and issues now “affecting” the church regarding homosexuality and marriage; I turned to read in the word of God In the place He chose to start out our knowledge of Him…right in the beginning… from Genesis, and I learned there from God’s word, “the bible” (His written will for all Christians to follow)..that in His plan everyone started out identical from the time of our creation in Garden of Eden; AS ALL OF US WERE MADE in the IMAGE of God, male and female. ( Gen 1:27 ).
But latter sin “entered into us”, at Genesis chap 3, and corrupted us “all” through the “fall” of Adam ( Explanation: Romans 5:12-21) …So Jesus had to come and restore us, to that perfect state (in our spirit man) as we “were in” when first made; when God first made Adam and Eve, male and female in the garden… “Before sin came in.” … So what ever is of God in the original state “as first created” is not sin. And we know from reading ( 2Cor 5:21 ) that Christ also had no sin.
And we now see “Before sin corrupted us” God created man and woman for each other, (read that again slowly) We see that happen when God said it is not good for man to be alone, and then God brought the woman to man, ( Gen 2:22-24 ) and that right there was “marriage” as God “intended” it. We see here His written will and original intention…. But let us keep looking and check it…did His intention seen change in the last 2000 years or so??
When studying the bible, I learned there is something called “principle of first mention”, which means when God says, or does something His “intention” never changes again after that in the whole bible, “the method may be improved” but God’s original intention never does change. So we should be able to see that in His word..”if” this is true.
Here “we” just saw in Genesis what “we” Christians call marriage, as seems God originally intended as “first mentioned”, As He God “ordained it” (he brought it about), which was to reflect His perfect image, as He designed it to be seen; And was the only “natural” way to fulfil God’s words spoken to Adam and Eve which was said by God, to go forth and “multiply”,(His first intention stated) and subdue the earth. His second intention spoken in this verse ( Gen 1:28 )
Nothing God creates “conflicts” with it’s self by design, for anything God ”intended to be accomplished” through his creation, that was all created by God… will always become able, “empowered” to fulfil His words and commands…His known will as intended. (Isa 55:11) As Father God, and His Word, and His Spirit always agree! (1John 5:7 )
God created in His image ”them” (Gen 1:27 ) now read this slowly “and male and female He created them.” So exactly as God intended to command them to go do, God also “designed” them, and empowered them for accomplishing it.(to fulfil His plan) To go “multiply” was a “natural” or inherent function “designed” into our bodies by our creator, to fit together and cleave together as one flesh (body), and fulfil the command of God to “multiply”, and also to work together to “subdue” the earth “with God”… remember “they” started out “in the beginning” hanging out together. God and man before the fall.
And remember the earth was, and “still is” the devils habitat…his kingdom. That God originally Intended for “us” to posses!..God said to go”Subdue”, to take back the earth from the devil! … Did God change that? We must continue to look into the Word for the answer.
And each man and woman ever since “the garden” was designed and born the same exact way, “with an intention of God to fulfil on earth” as He commanded. (His plan) ( Eph 2;10 ). And “to function” that way while on the earth, “in a way that imitates” His “intended” relationship with us individually (as seen in garden before sin) and display it to the world… as is ALSO done with each other through marriage, so that “His image is seen” as was designed, and then re-create (multiply) and as was also intended to be seen as “Christ and the church” in this world.
Ok, first let us see…Did God really say, this was His intention? Let us keep looking.
God had said let “us” make man in our image. (Gen 1:26) and God made “them” just as spoken, and put them together as He made them, and designed “them” to fulfil His command. With an “inherent” ability to multiply ! The word “inherent” is defined as existing in something as a permanent, essential, or characteristic attribute.” And He did not make “them”, or any of us to ever fail ! God never fails!
And God is always good! (James 1:17, Psalm 16:2 ) As He is always righteous ! ( Psalm145:17 ) And think about it before the fall God called his creation of “man and woman” …very good too! ( Gen 1:31 ) And God always makes away for us to “prosper in HIS plan”! ( 3John 1:2 )..Not our plan…His plan. As God only “establishes” His plans! ( Prov 19:21 )
This was God who instituted this union of man and woman, His plan, and created them to fulfil it…(and I then notice) God did NOT say anything about love anywhere so far in Genesis….Ahhh. But now look!
I do see this important point! Love was “demonstrated” by God, with animal skins given “from God” to Adam and Eve who had sinned. ( Gen 3:21 ) … So blood was shed, God took skins from animals, and there is always blood when that happens. And it agrees with scripture (His written “known” will to us) …”with out blood there is no remission of sin” ( Heb 9:22 ); And I remember seeing something similar again latter!
Actually it was written over two thousand years latter long after sin entered man in Genesis! ( Rom 5:8 ) Nasb version -”But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.” So God’s nature did not change… that is interesting.
So God was “clothing them” with a gift (grace) as an “access” to Himself; because of love! Even as Jesus does for us now, and this was His intended plan from the beginning and was seen in Genesis! But now by grace through Faith in Him..in “Jesus Christ”….We are able to be cleansed “by the blood of Jesus” from sin, and covered in gift of His righteousness; (1John 1:7, Isa 61:10 ) So that we “who believe”, may NOW also continue to have “fellowship” with God the Father. just as Adam and Eve were given same gift of “continued access” to Him in garden by animal skin, (the blood), after the sin had entered and had corrupted them, but back then spiritually they had died, and animal blood only covered “atoned” for sin.. that was what animal sacrifice did of the Hebrews covered their sin.
But now Jesus blood completely “cleanses” us! And in Christ “we” are made alive! (Gal 2:20 ) But God had created physically within Adam and Eve (and in us) an “inherent ability” to go forth and ”act” like God as far as to “create” and multiply….We also see Jesus as a creator, and the initiator of a new life “in us” in our Spirit …making us “imitators of God” through His power in us …. As He also created all things and they exist by Him! (Col 1:16-17)
But we see Adam and Eve Fulfilled God’s image in the “natural way” in the physical exactly as they were designed, and created; Becoming one in the flesh, also proving and accomplishing God’s plan, by forming a new creature to be born in and from Eve; And living for each other not themselves…”demonstrating love.” And all love is of God! For God is love ! (Remember 1John 4:8)
And they together created Cain and Able; but their children, as we can read had a bad “nature in them”, in their spirit that was corrupt, and even “murdered” …not acting like God who’s image they were made in.
Now I notice that God did not “speak it” at that time, regarding this example seen, being His “only” designed way to live, and have marriage “other than we seen it was a man and woman who were brought together to cleave to each other”…But sure seems He demonstrated it there. As He alone established “all things”….Ahhh… But latter we will see God does “speak”, as to what was NOT His natural designed way to live, and called those specific things… “sin”.
Anything which is opposite of, or opposes what God did, or opposes what God said He desires it to be… is sin (unrighteousness). Just as rebellion, and insubordination toward God is sin. (1Sam 15:23)
But that also seems sensible, as Satan always continues to “corrupt” the earth, and the things in the earth, and so we see it “became” necessary for God to speak regarding what is NOT God’s way, So He “God” at the time of His own choosing, declared what is Sin (unrighteousness), and ‘foreign’, mixed up, or “un-natural” to His original first intention.
His original “intended plan” which God had spoken, and designed man and woman to accomplish, and appointed them each a role to fulfil. (Eph 2:10)..Plans that He made before time for them to walk in! Even salvation was established before foundation of the earth! (Rev 13:8, 1Peter 1:19-20) So now what does God say regarding Homosexuality specificly? and same sex unions ?? Does God address this issue directly?
The first time we see this mentioned, is when God brought what we call ”immoral sins” to Moses attention, they are mentioned by God, directly speaking to Moses in Leviticus chapter 18, where God commands Him and all Israel to honour His statues and His “righteous” judgements, and God proceeds to give a list regarding certain issues. and specificly here in (Lev 18:22) God starts speaking of what we call homosexuality.
And God then repeats them all again to Moses with careful definitions in Chapter 20 as laws with “penalties” attached to live by, or in the case of some ” to die” for breaking; As breaking God’s commands ”His law”, is sin of rebellion to God…But notice that God defined the penalties Himself.
And we can see here in Leviticus Chap 20 several sins that are specific to “morality issues” with a severe penalty, and one is very specific to this subject that we call in English homosexuality, because God is very specific as He “described” a practice He called sin with a death penalty here in (Lev 20:13) Nasb-
13.”If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them. “.
The use of the Hebrew word for “lies with” here is as for sexual contact according to Hebrew lexicon and several bible commentaries I consulted.
And by reading that verse we also just “seen” what God “intended” by His description in His own words. We can see in the verses both before this one and after this one, that God actually addresses several sexual sins, (immorality) and the penalties in Lev Chapter 20, some of which God said are worthy of the death penalty, as was directed here by God for Moses to enforce; And was still being carried out by the Hebrews “God’s people” with the penalty of stoning to death in New Testament too……But NOT for the gentiles!
Gentiles were not under the law of Old Testament. As they were NOT chosen for God’s people, that is why through Jesus “we” are adopted! (Eph1:5) READ that last sentence again ! As in Christ you are NOW part of the family, and therefore NOW, even though made subject to the law of the family, we are also made free of it through Christ! By reading all of Leviticus 20, we can also see vs 13 is “not” the only sin deserving this penalty of death, that was eventually carried out under the direction of God’s appointed ”priests”!
Actually any sin is worthy of death to God, (spiritual eternal separation from Him) but we can see here, especially those that desecrate “His image” breaking His “moral law” are worthy of death in God’s eyes “under old covenant” God’s law for His “chosen family”, and was made known (first mention) here in Leviticus. And God said He gave them these laws, because the nation He sent them to “posses”, had committed these same acts, and God abhorred them for it, and also God was casting those people out for the Israelites to posses the land. (read Leviticus 20:23)
We can also see there were some sins in Leviticus 20, yes way back there in old testament under the Law “God’s righteous decrees, and judgements” ( Psalm 119:160 ) that had lesser penalties than death…again that is back under Old Covenant..but NOT now! Right?
Under the New covenant “New Testament”, ”we” who came into this world “after the cross of Calvary”, can now “choose” to accept truth, receive Jesus Christ as the answer to our own penalty of death owed for ALL our sins; And then walk in His power to overcome ALL sin, as He is our deliverer. Amen! So through Jesus by His blood paying the penalty, “we” now can obtain mercy, and by God’s grace receive forgiveness for our missing the mark…”sin”… Forgiveness For ALL Sin is in Jesus Christ!
Yes now all sin is sin. …And all sin separates from God… and NOW there are no lesser or greater sins, because now through Jesus Christ ALL sin is forgivable for both Jew and Gentile, except the one mentioned against Holy Ghost (see Mat12:31). But I also now notice this IS written IN the NEW Testament, regarding what God STILL says of “any sexual sin” ..a sin of immorality. ..
(1Cor 6:18 ) Nasb-”Flee immorality. Every other sin that a man commits is outside the body, but the immoral man sins against his own body.” …
Why would God say that?
Because the body is still made in “His image”; But is also NOW to be treated as “His temple”. ( 1Cor 6:19, 2Cor 6:16-18 ) And we can find many places where God deals harshly with those who “desecrate”=treat (a sacred place or thing) with violent disrespect; violate. “His rules” regarding His tabernacle, His 1st “temple” in Old Testament,(1Sam 2:22-24 ) (1Sam 2:33-35)
And think about it, at the temple of God, is also where Jesus showed a lot of anger in New Testament! But ONLY when Jesus was at the “temple” of God, did He display anger for how they were NOT using the “temple” for God’s intended plan, (John 2:13-16) but instead for obtaining their own gratification! Angry at the sin of miss use of His temple.. not angry at the people.
And it says this regarding Jesus angry in the Temple: John2: 17Amp- “And His disciples remembered that it is written [in the Holy Scriptures], Zeal (the fervor of love) for Your house will eat Me up. [I will be consumed with jealousy for the honor of Your house.]“… And in this use of His temple I see God did not and does not change. (Mal 3:6, Heb 13:8)
So I wondered did God change His view at all? Can I now read in the New Testament of what He had previously declared regarding “un-natural” acts of sex? As was stated in Leviticus?… And I did find this and now share it from (Rom 1:18- 32) & (Rom 2:1-3) I quote an Amplified bible to get closer to the Greek meaning, as the words were understood then…and they did not use a word “homosexual”, but they did use clearly understood language to convey their meaning, just as God had done in Leviticus..So I give it in context for you to see now too.
Rom 1:Amp 18″For God’s [holy] wrath and indignation are revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who in their wickedness repress and hinder the truth and make it inoperative.
19 For that which is known about God is evident to them and made plain in their inner consciousness, because God [Himself] has shown it to them.
20 For ever since the creation of the world His invisible nature and attributes, that is, His eternal power and divinity, have been made intelligible and clearly discernible in and through the things that have been made (His handiworks). So [men] are without excuse [altogether without any defense or justification],
21 Because when they knew and recognized Him as God, they did not honor and glorify Him as God or give Him thanks. But instead they became futile and godless in their thinking [with vain imaginings, foolish reasoning, and stupid speculations] and their senseless minds were darkened.
22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools [professing to be smart, they made simpletons of themselves].
23 And by them the glory and majesty and excellence of the immortal God were exchanged for and represented by images, resembling mortal man and birds and beasts and reptiles.
24 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their [own] hearts to sexual impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves [abandoning them to the degrading power of sin],
25 Because they exchanged the truth of God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, Who is blessed forever! Amen (so be it).
26 For this reason God gave them over and abandoned them to vile affections and degrading passions. For their women exchanged their natural function for an unnatural and abnormal one,
27 And the men also turned from natural relations with women and were set ablaze (burning out, consumed) with lust for one another—men committing shameful acts with men and suffering in their own bodies and personalities the inevitable consequences and penalty of their wrong-doing and going astray, which was [their] fitting retribution.
28 And so, since they did not see fit to acknowledge God or approve of Him or consider Him worth the knowing, God gave them over to a base and condemned mind to do things not proper or decent but loathsome,
29 Until they were filled (permeated and saturated) with every kind of unrighteousness, iniquity, grasping and covetous greed, and malice. [They were] full of envy and jealousy, murder, strife, deceit and treachery, ill will and cruel ways. [They were] secret backbiters and gossipers,
30 Slanderers, hateful to and hating God, full of insolence, arrogance, [and] boasting; inventors of new forms of evil, disobedient and undutiful to parents.
31 [They were] without understanding, conscienceless and faithless, heartless and loveless [and] merciless.
32 Though they are fully aware of God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve to die, they not only do them themselves but approve and applaud others who practice them.” ….. I notice it says “men and women turned from natural way” in vs 26-27…did not only say priests, or slaves. But referring to “everyone” who acts in these un-natural ways. Not acting as the “righteous” decree states…as we saw stated in Leviticus 20. And finish reading (Rom 2:1-3) here:
Romans2:1-3 Amp-Therefore you have no excuse or defense or justification, O man, whoever you are who judges and condemns another. For in posing as judge and passing sentence on another, you condemn yourself, because you who judge are habitually practising the very same things [that you censure and denounce].
2 [But] we know that the judgment (adverse verdict, sentence) of God falls justly and in accordance with truth upon those who practice such things.
3 And do you think or imagine, O man, when you judge and condemn those who practice such things and yet do them yourself, that you will escape God’s judgment and elude His sentence and adverse verdict?” …
Therefore to be a Christian and practice these acts openly or secretly it is going to be judged. And not in a good way! As will all things done in the body weather good OR evil! ( 2Cor 5:10-11 ) Go read that verse !
And Paul was teaching in ALL the churches He visited and wrote his letters too, that “they” who believed, needed to act on the outside like Jesus Christ, who now lived inside of them, and that Christ had made them free from sins power over them. Through Christ’s power given them to overcome the sinful nature, and be “imitators of God”. Just as I had seen that God gave that power to me.
I now especially take notice that Paul gave specific details of the “image” of “marriage” as God “intended” it to be seen, which Paul taught by Holy Spirit speaking through Him to the Ephesians church, (Especially read all of Ephesians Chap 5 and especially Eph 5: 21-31) And you will find repeated in vs 31 is a quote of a now familiar Genesis passage !
We also now find that the church in Rome was NOT the only place Paul addressed what in English is now call “homosexuality”; as Paul was always teaching believers in Christ how to live for God correctly “righteously” meaning “right living with right actions.” And remember John taught us that all sin is unrighteousness! (1John 5:17)
And the next place we clearly see Paul addresses this same issue we called homosexuality in our English, or as called by Paul an “un-natural” sex act as written, and as ALSO stated previously in Romans above. Is now also seen AGAIN in the first letter to the Corinthian church, (remember he was speaking for God by the Holy Spirit) and specifically Paul states un-natural sex acts are a sin, (deeds of darkness) also called “unrighteous” .
And in this city of Corinth it was said that the use of un-natural sex acts was prevalent in this city, not just a few who had ” felt led” by an “attraction in the flesh” that way ….and some believe history shows that the homosexual behaviour; ”The un natural actions by same sex people” was also recognized in the city of Corinth for being commonly used to worship certain idols in the region in which they believed those Gods practised this form of sexual expression.
And that those calling themselves priests of that form of idol worship, may have “cross dressed”, appearing as a woman instead of a man …thus acting effeminate….”Or taking on a softer side, a submissive image in homosexual act”, such as a man acting female, and Imitating someone they were not created to imitate. …Thus hiding the true image of God as designed; by “posing as something they are not”, which is as the devil always seeks to do, and redirecting those deceived, being demoniacally inspired into a form of worship to the devil himself by their “actions”;
And as we saw God called it a worship.( Rom 1:25 ) Even as shall be ultimately be done in last days, when the devil seeks to accomplish his plan, and have His image enter the temple of God to be worshipped. … ( 2Thess 2:3-4)
2Thess2:3-4Amp-Let no one deceive or beguile you in any way, for that day will not come except the apostasy comes first [unless the predicted great falling away of those who have professed to be Christians has come], and the man of lawlessness (sin) is revealed, who is the son of doom (of perdition), 4 Who opposes and exalts himself so proudly and insolently against and over all that is called God or that is worshipped, [even to his actually] taking his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming that he himself is God.”
But Paul says plainly all these “un-natural sex acts” are NOT acceptable at all, as it is “not ever” acceptable by “anyone” to act “unrighteous” , and these “practices” are listed among a list of many things sinful to God, known as and called “unrighteous” acts, or deeds of darkness; several of which, are the same exact things that were listed in Leviticus, and now they appear here again and is actually being referenced in the biblical view of Leviticus by Paul’s terminology, (1Cor 6:9-11)Nasb version-
“9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,
10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.”
Have I mentioned yet God said He never changes? (Mal 3:6) And as now seen again in New Testament God’s “original intent” seems so far to be intact . And that God desires we do the same, proclaiming same message as Paul that ALL these immoral acts are “sin”… to keep God’s “intent” the same. (Rev 22:11)
I then took notice that Paul tells the church (can look above see ).. “vs11″-…”Such were some of you“… BUT! YOU were sanctified, BUT YOU WERE justified in the name of the Lord Jesus! And now Paul next says this about “our” body… It is the Lord’s not ours! (Remember it is His temple) And what God has declared clean..”we” are to use “only” as He prescribes…As HIS temple ! And as He has now empowered us through Jesus to act righteous ! And empowered us to no longer act unrighteous!…Because “we” can choose to live for God!
(1Cor 6:12-14 )Nasb-12 “All things are lawful for me, but not all things are profitable. All things are lawful for me, but I will not be mastered by anything.
13 Food is for the stomach and the stomach is for food, but God will do away with both of them. Yet “the body is not for immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord is for the body.”
14 Now God has not only raised the Lord, but will also raise us up through His power.”…
And let us not forget we are bought with a price worth more than gold or silver, the blood of Jesus Christ.(1Pet 1:18-19 ) Amen. And what was described in Leviticus 18 and 20 are what we call immoral acts… and God calls them “unrighteous” acts.
When “we” as believers get raised up by the Spirit, and made a new creature in Christ, we “then” have power in “us” to live an overcoming life … overcoming “sin”, “unrighteous acts”, through the power of the Spirit of Christ inside us the righteousness of God, “us” acting now from Him on the inside, so that “our” actions are perceived as “behaving like” that which we WERE already created to “display” on the outside, as born a carrier of God’s image! As we were ALL created in His image!
That image, which God “naturally made to fit together” with each other as male and female, as “we” are ALL designed to “naturally” inherently recreate, and bring forth a new life.” Just as God does! And as were commanded to do for Him; And were designed to fulfil His intentions!
And that image as intended to be seen, is the same reason Paul “taught” the church to NOT DO certain things that did NOT appear like Christ, and to act instead as Christ would (imitate Christ) even as Paul taught he did! ( 1Cor 11:1 )…that Christ would be seen above all else. Like John also said… I must decrease ; that He “Christ” who is the righteous one may increase! ( John 3:30 )
Remember Jesus said He was one with the Father ( John 10:30 ), and said if you seen Him, you have seen the Father ( John 14:9 ) , and that we would be known as His disciples, by His love working through us.( John 13:35 ) And seem “Christ like” as even His disciples in the bible, began to be “Called Christians”, because of their actions imitating Christ. As this term Christian was first used in Antioch by those making a derogatory use of the term Christian for those “disciples” they “seen” who had similar “recognizable” traits to Jesus! ( Acts 11:26 ) Behaving as Christ like one’s. “Christians”.
I have heard it said a lot lately, that to point out “all” these scriptures from the bible on this subject we called “homosexuality”, is unloving to people who disagree with God regarding this matter. But to disagree with scripture is to be in rebellion with God…and I think the most un-loving thing I could ever do is allow my self, NOT to speak to someone “the Truth of God’s word” as God Himself plainly “intended” in Leviticus, and again taught through Paul the same. And to teach on Christ’s righteousness, and recognize that ALL unrighteousness is sin separating us from God! (1John 3:10 )
So from front to back of Bible; We can see God always agrees with Himself and never changes. (Mal 3:6, Heb 13:8). Remember God is not against people… He is against all sin, “unrighteousness”.
And that is same reason why the Apostles all died for Jesus, having continued to speak the Word of Truth, and live it, so that they were seen, as they believed… living the Truth, and not just speaking of it! And sharing the Truth in love, was more important than their own life. …Think about that and re-read it. ( Eph 4:15 )
Especially when, as they saw way back then in those bible times, and just as I CAN also see now, people walking in a deadly error, who I have great concern for, and like Paul, I also “know”… being able to ”discern” by their “fruit”, that they should hear this Truth “of God’s word”.
Exactly as Paul saw, and spoke directly to it in Rome, and Corinth, and like me he knew that those in error of sin, “continuing to act unrighteous”, could be facing eternity in hell, as their actions, just like my own actions, can be seen as good or bad, which anyone may also determine “judge” as good, or bad actions, and that is as according to what Jesus said in Mat 7! ( Mat 7:16-20) And as Paul did in Rome and Corinth! Pointing out himself what he saw was sin…”unrighteous actions” among the people…. even those who should have come out and been separated from it! Calling “themselves” Christians!
And I must point out… this is not by my opinion, but is only from the word of God…which I also believe is all true, every word… Thus I am being a Christian. And as God said only the word of God corrects, or rebukes, or teaches, and trains in “righteousness”…. (2Tim 3:16 ) Nasb-All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;”.
Therefore I must share it, with the ignorant , and discuss it openly with those who misrepresent it.. and teaching it in error. And although some are not willing to stand, and say what is wrong is wrong…that evil is evil. And prefer instead to call evil good, and good evil.
I must point out as Paul said “what fellowship does righteousness have with unrighteousness!” (2 Cor 6:14 ) We saw Jesus did not do call evil good either. And Jesus also said Truth would divide people as well. (Mat 10:31-38 ) And as we seen in 2 Tim 3:16 for Truth to be truth… it must “train in righteousness!”
And I see Paul as a church leader did not ever close his eyes to sin…”unrighteousness.” Therefore those in the church leadership now can not either.
Paul (who provided most of our New Testament bible) taught the Roman, and Corinthian church the word of God plainly, to also “train them in righteousness”= “right living, with right actions”, so they would correctly walk in the Spirit. Because God “through Paul” also said Rom 8:14Nasb-”For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.”
If your a son, you do not ever “seek” to go against the will of your father; As your love for him creates a desire to “please Him”, and obey Him… Showing Him this respect, “demonstrating it” so that He receives this as a form of Love from you;
The Greeks used mainly two words for “son’.. And a true son is NOT only recognized by his name being same as his Father, called a “teknon” son in Greek, also used for immature child. But you could be a son in name and ALSO be recognized as a son by “His actions” which imitate His Father, a ”huios” son in Greek! Also seen as a mature son.
Remember what Jesus said… that “we” as disciples “followers of Christ” are recognized by…By what?? NOT only a name but an “action”! Our “deeds” or visible works! (John 14:15,and 23). (James 2;26, Heb 11:6) and Love is also a righteous fruit ! We are to be filled with fruit of righteousness! ( Philippians 1:11 )
But there are some who say they have a “right’ to “act like” they want in eros ”love” sexually with whom they want. Some say they can be a Christian and act that way too…but God clearly shows you can NOT “as Christians and “allow yourself to have actions inconsistent with what God declares is righteous, by seeking to act unrighteous! And God says clearly if you love Him above all else… like “we” who believe in Him are suppose too love God… as Christians, as His children… then we obey Him!
And ALL forms of ”Love”, as is described in the bible, are for a Christian to express,but are always about “us” exercising choice over a feeling, and that we “demonstrate” all love correctly by “our obedience to God.”…Thus seeking to remain consistent in our actions with God’s nature defined in His word.
And the display of the “image of God” really seems to be what this debate should be about, regarding ANY questions of the bible, such as these questions that were recently discussed in the U.S. Supreme Court , and I believe wrongfully taken to this court for a decision by man’s judge instead of God! Because really I see it as only about who’s image shall it be that is seen the most prominently in this part of ”world” we call America…. God’s image? or Satan’s twisted version? God is Truth…And Satan is originator of lust, and Father of all lies. (John 8:44 )
And God’s image, that God desires to be displayed … seems quite plainly to have been defined by the Bible, and God never appears like sin! “unrighteousness;” And that is why He told us, that “we” who call ourselves “Christians”, are not to ever have that “appearance” of evil either. (1Thess 5:22)
So we can see God’s “original intention” is described clearly in the bible, exactly how His image is to be displayed through “us” as believers, His adopted children, taught and guided by the bible! Which Christians…”Followers of Christ”…”us” as the people that God, re created “made a new creature” for us to be like Jesus… are told to ONLY “live by every word” that proceeds from the mouth of God! (Mat 4:4) Jesus said that too!
For “Christians” …I speak to those who actually listen to His word “His voice”, and follow Jesus Christ,(John 10:27) it means the “image of God” is to be made clearly seen “through you” as followers of Him, exactly as God desired it, and as He planned from the beginning, or else we are going to be seen as corrupted and defiled as Satan wants our body- “God’s temple” to be seen. As devil had done back in New Testament and caused Jesus great anger over the incorrect use of the temple of God!
It is always one way or the other, no half way with God…dark or light…no mixing God with world, no shades of Gray with God in New Testament. Because on “this side of the cross” IN the “New covenant”…. “we” have Jesus to raise “us” up and be seated with Him ! (Eph 2:6) And act like as He is there, “here” now in this world! (1John 4:17 )… And no longer act as some of us “were” ( 1Cor 6:11 )…Because “we” have been washed “cleansed”, and now have power to chose righteousness! Through “JESUS” Christ!
In this world the devil only wants to be seen and worshipped as a god …without any truth being seen, or heard at all! Without interference by Christians who are to be working for God; Representing His Truth…The only true God, who is the creator of all things, including angels, which “includes Satan” who is ‘only’ a very strong created being, as an ex-angel ! But Satan’s problem is “us” who speak , and then act as Christians “exactly” as God declares it. ”Exercising” what “We”have! ALL power over Satan through Jesus Christ name, and by His Holy Spirit power in us ! (Luke 10:19)
And Satan has absolutely no love for people, he can not love, he is all selfish, he only seeks to manipulate people! Love is not selfish, and it does not manipulate ever ! (1Cor 13:4-5 ) But when we are made free in Christ,(Gal 5:1) ”We” as believers, are given power to make a choice, and stand against the devil, and overcome him..and “Subdue” him!! ….Here NOW in the earth as God ALSO commanded us to do in Genesis.
And through Jesus Christ in the New Covenant God equipped us to do it all! To live righteously, not immorally “fleshly”…And to represent every word of God truthfully.
(Rom 8:13) Amplified-”For if you live according to [the dictates of] the flesh, you will surely die. But if through the power of the [Holy] Spirit you are [habitually] putting to death (making extinct, deadening) the [evil] deeds prompted by the body, you shall [really and genuinely] live forever.” (Luke 10:19) Nasb-” Behold, I have given you authority to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing will injure you.”
It is for “us” to choose to accept God’s design, and plan as we are made, and follow His voice ( John 10:27) It is what we are called, appointed, and equipped to do, ( Philippians 2:13) as part of His plan for each of us “as designed” to walk in it,( Eph 2:10) and defeat the devil under our own feet, to possess the earth everywhere the souls of ‘our’ feet touch! ( Joshua 1:3) ,( 2Cor 1:20 ).
God did not change, You and I …who are actually in Christ Jesus, NOW have ALL power over the enemy ! AND no thing shall harm you. (Luke 10:19) said so ! And devil can’t touch that ! ( 1John 5:18)
And it is NOT for us who call ourselves Christians to ever place ourselves above God, to choose our own way. That too is idol worship… of self! Not being led by the Spirit.! Not faith in the one true God ! Who is our creator and designer of all.
And an “idol” can be anything you run to for comfort other than the ONE True God! Or it can be making the satisfaction of one’s own desires, more important than God’s desires for you. …That is when “self ” is an idol.
It is for us to seek first the kingdom, and walk only in the plan we were designed for, (Mat 6:33) and as “Christians” are “appointed” to also display as designed, and includes following His will for “marriage”, as God made clear marriage was to display His image as Husbands…an ”appointed position” to act like Christ as the Head, and Wives an “appointed position” to act as the image of the Church, the bride. (Eph 5:21-31) and that He planned it that way before time for us to walk in! (Eph 2:10, Jer 29:11)
And that together as husband and wife, we can “naturally” multiply and subdue the earth, that we would prosper in His plan as established! Brought together as created for a purpose, to fulfil His commands…as said in Genesis… and uniquely stated through Paul in (1Cor 11:8-12). 1Cor11:8-12
Amplified- “8For man was not [created] from woman, but woman from man;
9 Neither was man created on account of or for the benefit of woman, but woman on account of and for the benefit of man.
10 Therefore she should [be subject to his authority and should] have a covering on her head [as a token, a symbol, of her submission to authority, that she may show reverence as do] the angels [and not displease them].
11 Nevertheless, in [the plan of] the Lord and from His point of view woman is not apart from and independent of man, nor is man aloof from and independent of woman;
12 For as woman was made from man, even so man is also born of woman; and all [whether male or female go forth] from God [as their Author].” …
Because God made them, and designed them with an intent… And seems He did not change it on this side of the cross in New Testament!
And now I see this, again in New Testament directly as repeated by Jesus!
Mat19:4-6-”He replied, Have you never read that He Who made them from the beginning made them male and female,
5 And said, For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and shall be united firmly (joined inseparably) to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh?
6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man put asunder (separate).”…
God just said right there, do NOT try to change my intent.
Hey! Just so you know, I don’t like NOT being “unmarried” either, I am a single Reverend /teacher at this time, and I’m also one who experienced pain of an unwanted divorce,… So let me be very clear, I like the natural use of the woman..a lot! And for me it still is not good for man to be alone;
But I also do NOT go out, and exercise that desire in my body now, I freely exercise choice, I “choose” NOT to allow my “flesh” (those appetites and desires of the world), to lead me the devils way, “opposite” of God’s declared way, as “clearly” seen in God’s written “known will”, so I don’t allow myself to start acting like the devil would want!! And give him some form of worship. No!…I say get thee behind me Satan!….. Why?
Because I also read Fornication and adultery were in Leviticus and Paul’s list too. …. So I don’t “allow” myself those unrighteous choices ! By my making the choice for righteousness through Christ… and accepting what God alone has said is right. “righteous living”. And just like I have power to make a choice for God, so can anyone that is truly IN Christ! I can always make a choice over things of sin “unrighteousness”;
And act as God asked me too act “righteous”! By His Spirit in me. ( Gal 4:6) But I can not make choices over things such as my colour (race) or the shape I was designed to be born! But every human “as they are born”, can function as God designed them with a similar plan to fulfil as He intended!
I make the choice not to sin FOR my God! Exactly as God asked ALL who call themselves “Christians” to do. Married or unmarried, and also EQUIPPED “us” who “believe” to actually be able to DO what is right. Remember Luke 10:19 ? It says we are given ALL power over the enemy! ….Over sin!
When confronted by sin, remember ability to ”choose” was given us through Jesus death by His resurrection ! ! That same power that raised Christ up is at work in us!! (Eph 1:19-23)
Even as I made a freewill “choice” to remain faithful to a wife, when I “was” married… it was always my choice to daily decide to honour God, and honour my marriage vows, as He “God” ALWAYS keeps His!
It is always “us” who leave God, and turn from His will, taking detours our own way, not following His plan, as He designed it for us to walk in. God never leaves us. And God never made a plan B…Only one plan, and He designed it before time. And always works everything to bring us back on “His original plan”, His path as He created it, exactly as He intended for us to be walking it out …by “us” as His image! But also “with” His power on “display” through us. (good fruits)
And by the way, remember I said fornication and adultery were also listed in Leviticus, just go look at Lev.Chap 20, and also as listed again in the New Testament ( 1Cor 6:9 ); But now consider this point made by Jesus! Jesus helped the adulteress woman not to get stoned to death (the penalty of death declared by God in Levitcus 20); Jesus gave her mercy…Mercy is NOT getting what you do deserve…..death by stoning. Grace is getting what you do not deserve….life “through Christ”; As He took our “deserved” penalty away.
But notice now; Jesus himself ALSO told the adulterous woman. ..”go and sin no more.” (John 8:11)That means she could now exercise choice over what God declared as sin! (unrighteousness) And that was power of Jesus being applied before the cross! How much more we have now at work in us!
Because WITH Christ; God is not asking of you, what you can not do…for with Him in you …YOU can now do all things! God does not make you to fail, Nor will He command you to fail! He says He does not tempt you! (James 1:13) But He always makes a way to to escape! (1Cor 10:13) God Leads you another way that is always in line with His will and plan.
But God remains, He is WITH YOU! WHEN you go through deep water… that is difficult. And through fire.. that is painful, (Isa 43:2) He is still always there with you, to hold your hand ! (Isa 41:13) Because He is ALWAYS the same ! (Heb 13:8 ) Even as “we” are to imitate that “sameness” of being like Him too ! And “obedient” to God completely, just as Christ was which should always be our goal too.
And that is why in the early church we see Paul taught; That sin is something to be “confronted correctly”, and sin should be dealt with, and not ever acted on just because of desires and feelings (appetites). It is now a choice ! In Christ the sinful nature that you “were” born with becomes cast off, as the re created New Creature in Christ “nature” is allowed to grow, and always overcomes sin. Because your spirit is now joined and is one spirit with Christ ! (1Cor 6:17)
Paul also “taught”, if you choose to continue in the “practice of sin” when you are suppose to be a “Christian”, that you should be dealt with by the “authority” that God placed over the church, read it, (1Cor 5:1-5) Amplified version-
1Cor5:1 -”It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, impurity of a sort that is condemned and does not occur even among the heathen; for a man has [his own] father’s wife.
2 And you are proud and arrogant! And you ought rather to mourn (bow in sorrow and in shame) until the person who has done this [shameful] thing is removed from your fellowship and your midst!
3 As for my attitude, though I am absent [from you] in body, I am present in spirit, and I have already decided and passed judgment, as if actually present,
4 In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, on the man who has committed such a deed. When you and my own spirit are met together with the power of our Lord Jesus,
5 You are to deliver this man over to Satan for physical discipline [to destroy carnal lusts which prompted him to incest], that [his] spirit may [yet] be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.”
Notice that it says this man was continuing in this “immoral sin”, known by the whole church, and was to be put out, that the body might be destroyed, but that his soul might be saved; This teaching by God through Paul regarding this “immoral sin” mentioned, where a man was recognized to be in a “on going” immoral relationship, and attending the Corinthians church, in spite of the church knowing that his actions were biblically wrong.
This is also an example to the church today….too do the same thing Paul did with known “unrepentant” attitude toward sin. Why? To keep a “distinction” between what is God’s church and “the world.” To come out from among them and be separate. ( 2Cor 6:17 )
Because how you are “seen” acting in your body, “His image” as one calling themselves a “Christian” is important to God! And can be bad for you!! If you call yourself a “Christian” but continue in sin, and are seen publicly justifying your sin, instead of repenting of it is wrong, and must be addressed. And Paul taught how to do that too. (Gal 6:1).
And If you sin, you CAN repent, repentance means change direction, but actually the word is much deeper, and makes a connection of being sorrowful for your sin, and choosing to turn to God for mercy, to obtain grace and change our mind to do as God asks daily. And walk with Him by His strength and love being shown for Him. And then you CAN confess it as sin, and be cleansed of all unrighteousness. ( 1John 1:9 ).
Jesus preached come to Him, accept Him, “His ways” as He is the Way, Truth and Life…. Jesus also said this. Mat4:17Amp-”From that time Jesus began to preach, crying out, Repent (change your mind for the better, heartily amend your ways, with abhorrence of your past sins), for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” …And the word NEVER disagrees with it’s self.
Ask yourself…Is it “God’s ” intended image, or Satan’s deception that YOU have on display?? Examine yourself compared to scripture, “to God” (John1:1), and Jesus, and NOT compared to other people of this world! ( 2Cor 13:5)… Because “Christians” are to only imitate the True God of the bible. Even though the world could hate you for it ! ( John 15:19 )
God is not easy on ANY sin, and certainly not ANY sin of immorality, as seen in Leviticus chap 20, and now as was seen taught again here through Paul in New Testament! God did not ever change….Remember that principle of first mention?… That which God showed He intended has certainly remained the same through out scripture as seen. Bible college professors were right the first mention remained unchanged.
God has declared that we must NOT abandon the natural function of “man with a woman” (in marriage) or reap a due penalty in themselves for it. ( Rom 1:27), and that the privilege of sex is only to be exercised in marriage, as “God designed it”, as their is no due penalty in marriage bed as God designed, and established it that way when God brought a naked woman to a naked man.
And God also said in New Testament that if passion is burning then we should marry, (1Cor 7:9) but only as “in the Lord”; As spoken to unmarrieds , and widows, but notice this… to be “equally yoked” is really same thing, as we are to only marry “in the Lord” so it is meant for ALL believer’s! As the Lord desires a marriage to be portrayed only “in Him” .. And God said that to every Christian believer! ( 2Cor 6:14 ) Why?
Because what you do with your body.., His image, His temple, that is also part of His corporate body, as we have clearly seen by all of these scriptures, that….It IS important to God what you do with HIS body, and that it is now to ONLY be used as His temple! ( 1Cor 6:19 )
We can see that marriage, because it is to be an example of “God’s image”, has a “natural” way to express sexuality as God designed to fulfil His command, and called them “very good”, and made marriage relationship like “His image”, so that we do not “desecrate” the temple that “we” are to Him.
In reality I clearly see “marriage” as defined by God, is not ever to be only what “we want” it to be, but only be as was designed in garden by God, who brought woman to man to cleave to one another (Gen 2:24)…and secondly, but never less important, God also designed it to be seen as a display of Him “with” His church through the example, the “image” seen of marriage in this world, made visible ONLY through Christians as Husband and wife with power of Jesus in them ! As we are His temple!
That example is Christ and His church with His bride…. Col1:18Nasb-”He is also head of the body, the church; and He is the beginning, the first born from the dead, so that He Himself will come to have first place in everything.”… As we see regarding marriage in Ephesians Chap 5:21-30 the same exact imagery spoken here ..
Eph5:23-26-”23 For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ also is the head of the church, He Himself being the Savior of the body. 24 But as the church is subject to Christ, so also the wives ought to be to their husbands in everything.
25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself up for her, 26 so that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word,”
We are to ONLY be in relationships that declare what God said…”us” with Him, and then with each other to “conform” to His image being seen (Rom 8:29) …not as I want relationships to be, but as God says. God alone defines what “relationships are for Christians”; So then our lives as Christians must agree with God’s word; Or you are not displaying His image as He deigned it to be seen, so that He God would get all the glory and honour in heaven and on earth.
Like the prayer says… His will be done on earth as in heaven! (Mat 6:10 ) And as Jesus asked for “us”‘ to be able to do too! (John 17;22 ) Of course you can only be sanctified by Truth. ( John 17:19)…And If you do not seek to live in truth, you CAN NOT BE A Christian according to Gods word. (1John 3:9 ) See it here in the amplified version…
1John3:9Amp-”No one born (begotten) of God [deliberately, knowingly, and habitually] practices sin, for God’s nature abides in him [His principle of life, the divine sperm, remains permanently within him]; and he cannot practice sinning because he is born (begotten) of God.”
And keeping God’s will from being done on earth is the devils plan, the same reason that Satan seeks to destroy any image of God on earth, so that God’s will can not easily be seen, or accomplished… From babies killed by abortion, to marriages destroyed by divorce in the church, to Christians that the devil now tempts with worldly appetites and desires, so he can steal your “potential” to overcome him!
And that is why the devil constantly roams about seeking whom he “may” devour (1Pet:8 ) not devour a Christians life…he can not (Col 3:3 ) Your life is hid in Christ ! … BUT devil CAN try to steal a believers “potential” that we as “believers” HAVE in Christ, to overcome the devils plan, and glorify God on the earth!..WITH your body ! (1Cor 6:20 )
And that is why in the end of time, Satan seeks to do one thing “as he can not create”…. he can only seeks to counterfeit God, by twisting truth… Trying to bring his corrupted image into God’s temple to be seen, and worshipped. It is always, and has always been about the image of God being corrupted by Satan;
You see the battle is not about love “eros”, or this word homosexual. Or same sex marriage…But is only about if “we” as Christians “God’s people” are to be “seen” living as imitators of God, as God’s dear children here and now! (Eph 5:1) or not. And that is how “we” should frame any debate on this subject.
I now see we “as Christians” should not allow the enemy to make us fight on his terms as he wants to twist the debate… but we should make him fight on our terms. Because “we” already have ALL power over the enemy! And God has appointed each of us to walk in a plan, that He made us to walk in, and designed us individually to fulfil. (Eph 2:10)… Morality and marriage like “Christianity” is a church issue, a part of our religious beliefs based on scripture spoken by God.
But I must also say, I CAN worship with any one just like Paul did …who said such “were” some of you…past tense! But Paul did NOT ever allow sin just to continue with those calling themselves Christians, He called sin a sin, as acts of “unrighteousness” and if they continued to “knowingly” practice sin, and they disregard it as sin, or try to make it acceptable in the church, to avoid any real change, not becoming transformed! (Rom 12:1-2). Then;
Paul addressed it directly with them, lovingly, gently, but with Truth to help them to become like Christ! (Eph 4:15 see Amplified) And Paul has already answered the Romans church when he was asked; Should we continue in sin that grace may abound?… Paul said… God forbid ! (Rom 6:1-2 ), therefore it is same for us today. As God does not change. (Mal 3:6)
And repentance or “change of direction” turning away from sin, is required as ordained by God to bring us near to Him… ” to conform us into the image of Christ” (Rom 8:29, 2Cor 3:18 )…. God declared it that way… And Paul by the Holy Spirit speaking did not allow God’s intentions to become changed either. And declared this Truth of God’s word, even preaching it to the world as Christ commanded (Luke 24:46-47) to lead sinners to “repentance” for the forgiveness of sins, ….that they might be saved (delivered) ! (And also become clothed with power,the armour of God)
So let me be very clear, any sinner may come to my church, or any “real” church, as YES the church is for all who desire to become “Christians” , and want to grow in Christ, and for all sinners in bondage, and the sick, and lost, or lonely people in the world to truly know love, and have “Godly family influences”, and to “grow” to become “Christians” equipped to walk right, as those who God calls “saints”, and receive,”training in righteousness”, and then do the work of the ministry (Eph 4:12), ..to act “in righteousness”; To be seen as imitating Jesus whom they can recognize, and actually be able to imitate our Father, whom they can not see… as God is Spirit (John 4:24 ) But by imitating and following Christ, we act like our Father just as Jesus did ! A well beloved son, a child of God. (Eph 5:1)
But eventually as a Christian there has to be evidence of the revealing of a New Creature in Christ, a transformation with the old past away… And the consistent putting off the old sinful man nature,(Eph 4:22-24 )
“Christ likeness” must be revealed “put on”, like armour of light! (Rom 13:12) An imitator of Christ always becomes known, and is recognizable…. Like God said.. Why?
Because God also said 2Pet3:9Nasb-”The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for all to come to repentance.” … Because God said this too… (1Cor 6:9 ) Nasb-
9.”Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,…shall inherit the Kingdom God.”
I do not want any body going to hell because they were lied to by the devil and his demons, or false teachers!..Who are using the oldest trick in the book…literally it is devils oldest trick! The devil asked Eve this question…Did God really say? (Gen 3:1) Amp-
1″Now the serpent was more subtle and crafty than any living creature of the field which the Lord God had made. And he [Satan] said to the woman, “Can it really be that God has said”, You shall not eat from every tree of the garden?”
Or as Satan says today.. Did God really say you can NOT have sex outside of His design for marriage?. .Or that you can NOT marry any one of same sex if you desire too?? Or is homosexuality always a sin, just like fornication or adultery ?…And just like with Eve then… That also is NOT the real issue! But what is the “intention” of God? Which really the church should already know it ! IF they KNOW there bible! And therefore should only be asking what is the devil’s intention today?! To overcome him!
Look at what happened back then? ” Eve allowed the devil to portray the issue the devil’s way”.. Devil made it seem like God was just keeping Eve from enjoying her life, because, after all didn’t Eve know what she really needed? Or what she should have for a relationship with God? … It was ONLY Satan’s way of twisting truth, and corrupting the “image” of an image bearer of God!
And as was devil’s plan in garden then, it is same plan of devil today! Devil can not create…Therefore devil did not create change…He only deceives and lies and twists so that “we” change what we should not try to change ! God’s word and will….which can not ever change!
Devil “can’t” change… God “will not” change! He promised to be faithful forever to His word!
But the church today has allowed the devil to control the debate, by NOT recognizing what HAS God said,… but for lack of Knowledge. (Hosea 4:6); Or for rejecting it ! It says the outcome for God’s people is bad !! ….says God’s people are destroyed! Jesus said only the wide road leads to destruction. (Mat 7:13-14)
But “we” as “believers” are only to walk in the light of God, and of His son,(1John 1:7 ) that is the narrow way, and as it is done in God’s Kingdom, it is to be done here on earth, that we can be seen as children of light. (Eph 5:8 ) And darkness has never overcome the light! (John 1:5) look up amplified! Devil can not comprehend light ! Can not comprehend Truth! … And therefore Can not overcome Truth!
I think now “we” have seen God has answered the questions posed in the beginning of this article through His own word. We see all “un-natural” sex is still sin, we call that “un-natural” act of sex between two same sex people homosexuality in English. And that ”un-natural” sex is always “unrighteous” to God. And God does not join himself to sin ! So there must be “repentance” of sin, and acceptance of Christ to be cleansed of unrighteousness, and joined to Christ as one spirit! (1Cor 6:17)
And then walking in repentance must continue, as born again we can NOT continue with the sin! But continue seeking to stay away from sin, and especially we are not to act out sin as Christians, because we have Christ’s power in us, and with that power we can exercise choice in becoming imitators of Christ, and our Father… over coming sin. ”Not practising” sin !
We also see God says NO sex outside of marriage is allowed, and sex inside of marriage is good only between man and woman, and we seen what God calls sinful, can not then be condoned, and that righteousness and unrighteousness can not be joined together as a marriage with God! Because God declared marriage is about two being joined WITH God as one with Him, to fulfil His commands…. It is what God has joined together that is definition of marriage. (Mat19:5-6) And we are now to be His temple and not desecrate it,… So Darkness and light can not be joined together !
And marriage as God intended is seen in scripture designed for man and woman to fulfil His command, to naturally multiply and subdue the earth. And from this we recognize “who believer’s” may have sex with, and “when believers” can have sex…only in marriage designed by God between man and woman for natural sex without sin…to not desecrate the temple of God that “we” as believers are to God. And in both Old and New Testament it is the same … God does not change. From beginning to end. Mat24:35Amp- “Sky and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away.” So.. God’s way….or Satan’s way… that is the real decision were making.
As a Christian It’s always your choice. But you can NOT have it both ways, and still be an imitator of God, or of Jesus Christ. We cannot be a little dark and still be seen as light. Jesus said that. (Mat 6:23 )
God is only one God (1Tim 2:5) We imitate Him through Christ in us…And as Paul said he also followed “imitated” Christ (1Cor 11:1 )… And in Hebrews it says this of Jesus (Heb 1: 3)-
Heb1: 3Amp. 3.”He is the sole expression of the glory of God [the Light-being, the out-raying or radiance of the divine], and He is the perfect imprint and very image of [God’s] nature, upholding and maintaining and guiding and propelling the universe by His mighty word of power. When He had by offering Himself accomplished our cleansing of sins and riddance of guilt, He sat down at the right hand of the divine Majesty on high,”…..
Jesus is worthy of all our “obedience” that is a demonstration of our love for Him. Do you really love Him? (John 14;15 ). Your fruit (actions) will tell on you as to what’s really in your heart… If you say God is your Father; But you are NOT “SEEKING” to display His image exactly as declared in the bible, I must ask you then, is God really your Father? Have you really become a child of God?? Jesus said…
( John 8:42-45 ) Amplified-
42 “Jesus said to them, If God were your Father, you would love Me and respect Me and welcome Me gladly, for I proceeded (came forth) from God [out of His very presence]. I did not even come on My own authority or of My own accord (as self-appointed); but He sent Me.
43 Why do you misunderstand what I say? It is because you are unable to hear what I am saying. [You cannot bear to listen to My message; your ears are shut to My teaching.]
44 You are of your father, the devil, and it is your will to practice the lusts and gratify the desires [which are characteristic] of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a falsehood, he speaks what is natural to him, for he is a liar [himself] and the father of lies and of all that is false.
45 But because I speak the truth, you do not believe Me [do not trust Me, do not rely on Me, or adhere to Me].”…
So then if you call yourself “Christian”…..Who do you imitate in your life ?
In any mirror you will see your created reflection of Father God’s image, exactly as He designed YOU, and “appointed” you to portray Him. But only the Word of God is Truth so “we” must align with it, and that means “we” must change, to be conformed to Him…His Word.
“If” we are imitators of God, and one with Him in Christ. (2Cor 5:21, John 17:21 ) We can not continue to practice what God calls sin…and also be called ‘Christians”.
Then the REAL issue we will need to discuss, is not ever going to be about homosexuality, or choice of who we can love, or marry, or not marry…it IS going to be about God, His word, and about “His image” being seen correctly, as He declared it to be portrayed…. “if”… we really are His children! …And that is the real issue the church should now point out.
So then the debate regarding the questions, I think we have seen is only about not discussing God’s image, and what God declared we should choose to submit too for His great mercy shown us through Christ Jesus. So that God shall be seen as He has intended …through “us” as “His image bearer” living rightly “righteously” in the earth, multiplying, and seeking to subdue the earth as was intended before sin entered though Adam’s “disobedience” and insubordination, ”rebellion” in the garden;
So that we are seen as “believers”, living submitted to God, and loving Him with all our mind, all our heart, and all our bodies! Old testament says Love the Lord with all your heart, all your soul and all your strength(Deut 6:5) New Testament says…
(Rom 12:1)-”I appeal to you therefore, brethren, and beg of you in view of [all] the mercies of God, to make a decisive dedication of your bodies [presenting all your members and faculties] as a living sacrifice, holy (devoted, consecrated) and well pleasing to God, which is your reasonable (rational, intelligent) service and spiritual worship.”… Notice God does not change. And that ALL of us is to be His.
If you love Jesus and our Father God…then you will submit to His word, and His Spirit to live as He declared that “we should” as His children, and the Children of Light agree with the light…not with darkness. It is not really about sexual sin or immorality, or gay marriage, or the word homosexuality…it is about all “those” who call themselves “Christians” actually seeking to be “imitators” of God as dearly loved children …. Children who ONLY seek to look like, as God declared that we should look, and be seen to act like we were designed by Him ! (Eph 5:1) By that same mighty power that raised Christ from the dead!
And also about “us” declaring that Truth correctly… as His ambassadors here; (2Cor 5:20) Ambassadors only represent what there King tells them too! Under His rule while in this nation though not apart of it as citizens of another kingdom. . Reminding those around us that… God does not change; Sin is still sin; And God still intended this be seen in marriage as His designed plan, as ”God brought woman to man.” (Gen 2;22) And “woman was made FOR man.” (1Cor 11:9) To have a marriage as God designed, as is “first mentioned” in Genesis, that we can fulfil His command to “naturally multiply,” and subdue, and”prosper” IN the earth, and also “imitate”, “mimic” His planed image, to appear like Christ, and the Church on the earth. (Eph 5:23-27)
Therefore I can love all people, but I can not condone and accept their sin, I can accept them but not agree with their choices. And what God clearly calls sin does not change, so I can not perform or attend a ceremony that disagrees with God’s plan for His creation. And have an appearance of evil…the appearance of accepting sin. I can love them and hate the sin. Which is also like God does.
In this “world”… “we” alone are made, as the ONLY creatures that CAN “act” like, and appear like God’s image; Humans are the only ones made in God’s image, as God intended it. And are the only ones able to be transformed by Jesus Christ, when we come to Him, and accept Him, allowing Him to enter into us to become ONE Spirit with Him.(1Cor 6:17) and receive freedom (Gal 5:1) to freely choose to follow in His steps filled with His Spirit, (Gal 4:6) and therefore become complete imitators of God! How?
Believe in and receive the Truth, then live in the Truth, and walk in the narrow road,(Mat 7:13-14) by the light of God’s word (Psalm 119:105) To live by faith, and not be hearers only, but doers of the word. (James 1:22 )
So “you” and any person can come out of a life of sin, and believe truth, and by receiving Jesus Christ be transformed! And then begin to look like Jesus, who always “looked like” He did the will of the Father, to honour “our” Father God.. (John 5:19-23)… And you should always seek to imitate the Father even as Christ did; And that is the real issue as Christians. So did God change? I certainty I say no…not at all.
I certainly do not see it…do you? (2Cor 6:14-18 )Nasb- 14″Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness?
15 Or what harmony has Christ with Belial, or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever?
16 Or what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; just as God said, “I will dwell in them and walk among them; And I will be their God, and they shall be My people…
.17 “Therefore, come out from their midst and be separate,” says the Lord….“And do not touch what is unclean; And I will welcome you.
18 “And I will be a father to you, And you shall be sons and daughters to Me,” Says the Lord Almighty.” … By the way vs 16 also had mention in Leviticus 26:11-12 too!
So then as a “Christian”; What is the issue with Homosexuality and same sex marriage really? It is just another form of sin, and really it is a distraction from “Be ye imitators of God, as dearly loved children!” (Eph 5:1Kjv.)
God did not change. Therefore as Christians… We must change to be like Him, who is the Word (John 1:1)… and speak the Truth in love. But sin and Jesus can not be embraced at same time. We must be separate. He said in new Testament verse above… “be separate and come out from among them and touch no unclean thing”…. We see that the “customs” of the people had to change, to “appear” like God said in His word. To be in agreement with God…. And not appear evil.
God does not change.
I felt it important to write this article just from the word as God has declared it. And it seems important to realize as i found out reading Leviticus chap 20, that God also warned Christians in those nations that went against His design of morality, and practised those things in Leviticus He declared as sin.
that God also said this Lev20:vs 22-23- 22.”‘You are therefore to keep all My statutes and all My ordinances and do them, so that the land to which I am bringing you to live will not spew you out.
23 Moreover, you shall not follow the customs of the nation which I will drive out before you, for they did all these things, and therefore I have abhorred them.”
Interesting the similarity of warning against being luke warm stated in (Rev 3:16) where God ALSO said again he would spew you out. .. God does not change.
I do not want to be spewed out of my nation by God; Nor be considered luke warm! So then to practice my “religion” in the U.S.A. as a follower of Christ, and believer of God’s word… I must not only clarify and teach, but also “proclaim” what is acceptable to display, or not display in this world through our actions as “Christians” in all our relationships, as an “imitator of God” = a “Christian”…As a dearly loved child of God.
And also help everyone to follow Christ as well, so they do not spend eternity in hell for any thing God calls sin which is “unrighteousness” ! (1John 5:17 ) So talking about this was necessary to my “religious beliefs”….Which are based on God’s word… the Bible. Which in America I am allowed to freely do
Because from Genesis to Leviticus, all the way to Romans through Corinthians, continuing until end of Revelations God does not change! Just as He said. (Mal 3:6, Heb 13:8)
And in Revelations God warns do not add to or subtract from His word. (Rev 22:18-19)… And to say God did not say it ..is to take away from His words. That is devils plan. But because I seen God HAS said…and we have seen It is written clearly. I took weeks to write this and read and pray to see truth of what God says is the Truth.
Scripture is not opinion of man…it is the living word of God. Because of love and concern for my fellow mankind I wrote this…not for hate. I only hate sin “unrighteousness” as God declares it, and “repentance” demands I hate sin …but not ever hate the sinner, who I hope to spend eternity with in heaven. Because like me all can repent of sin, turn toward Jesus and “seek” to follow after His righteousness. (Mat 6:33)… Giving themselves completely to Him. God said it this way through Paul by the Holy Spirit…
(Rom 12:1 )Amp- 1.”I appeal to you therefore, brethren, and beg of you in view of [all] the mercies of God, to make a decisive dedication of your bodies [presenting all your members and faculties] as a living sacrifice, holy (devoted, consecrated) and well pleasing to God, which is your reasonable (rational, intelligent) service and spiritual worship.”
And Paul said this for God in Rom 6:16Nasb-”Do you not know that when you present yourselves to someone as slaves for obedience, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin resulting in death, or of obedience resulting in righteousness?”
But Jesus taught it this way….Jesus said that if a coin which was pressed with image of Caesar on it, and if it is asked to be given to Caesar, that it was then to be given to Caesar….And said that which has the image of God on it…is to be given to God. (Mat 22:19-21 see amp).
We are made in the image of God… Who do you give your self too?
In Christ ….It is always your choice. A choice between eternity in heaven with our Father and Jesus or in hell with the Satan and never knowing God’s love but all of His wrath.
I hope you will look up all these scriptures I gave you to clearly see the Truth…And then be able, like Jesus to say…”It is written”!
To clearly follow the narrow road…and stay in the light! Rev. Ernie Harpster
As Reference to understanding the original intent of Hebrew and Greek on the Leviticus and Corinthian passages as i finished writing this article I also verified my understanding and my study of the word usage in the passages as correct compared to this very thorough article. Which also verified the connection of homosexual acts in the worship of false gods. http://www.biblicalstudies.org.uk/pdf/homosexuality_corinthians6.pdf .